Yeah, see ya, MyDD. It's a big Internet out there, and I can't help but wonder why I've wasted my time here.
I know, I know, don't let the door hit my ass on the way out.
I'm thinking the same. I haven't posted as much lately, because almost every time I log on the main diaries are either ones slamming Obama or comparing Obama to HRC. I'm tired of defending him against the same swarth of people. I'm trying to look at this election and primary in historical terms. An AA and a woman were two of three finalists and we have a chance to elect the first minority as POTUS in the history of the USA...Plus get out of Bush's clusterfuck...I'm excited about 2009, wish others were as well.
as a "slam" against Obama -- I'm still supporting him. There are about 16,000 people on MyBO (most of them long-time Obama supporters) who are upset, too. And I admitted I was disappointed in Hillary's position on faith-based initiatives. I also said I couldn't be sure what she'd be doing right now, if she'd become the nominee. I was very critical of Obama, but I think legitimate criticism is a healthy thing. His FISA stance will not diminish my support.
I too an just as critical of Hillary's position on faith based initiatives. I think it is wrong to give tax dollars to institutions that aren't taxed themselves.
Not a pleasant thing, if you ask me.
Should we not give tax dollars and grants to private universities for clinical research?
Should we not publicly fund institutions like cancer societies, HIV/AIDS relief organizations and food banks/homeless shelters?
All these organizations don't receive tax money but many do obtain public funding....
No disrespect intended sricki...Many things people on this site raise as concerns are well-founded and deserve to be talked about. I hope it can be done civilly and with an open-mind that's all...Oh and it would be nice to see us going after McCain and his positions as well.
but tomorrow or Sunday I'll be writing a very positive pro-Obama diary. All my venting has made me feel much better. Certainly more optimistic.
Sorry if you took offense. Absolutely none was intended toward you:)
But we need you Hootie. As you know it is so easy to take over this site. It is amazing how much time we spend defending our candidate on this site
Hootie, can you honestly say that Obama is turning out to be anything like the candidate you thought you were supporting prior to his becoming the presumptive nominee?
Honestly phoenix, yes. As in any other election year during the primary you shoot for your base which includes mostly Democrats because some of the states have closed primaries. So basically your campaigning for the Democratic vote and in open primaries you change your campaigning to reach out to independents and moderate Repubs.
It's a different story in the GE. You have to move to the center in order to widen your net of possible voters and to lessen the turnout for your opponent. Simply put it is a strategy necessary to win the POTUS. Once he gets into office I believe he will shift back to the left and promote the liberal agenda. I was under no false pretenses in the primary.
It would be more accurate to say that "politicians move to the right to win the general election." Hence you see Barack Obama moving right, and John McCain moving further right, both in an apparent attempt to appeal to the Republican base.
...the McCain adviser said the campaign will target male and female blue-collar white Democrats, a group viewed by Republicans as Obama's soft spot. "They already sense that [Obama] may be too liberal," the adviser added. "They tend to also agree with McCain on the war and on social issues and we'll have to satisfy them that McCain agrees with them on the economy." "The bulk of the Democrats you would try to appeal to are not Harvard-educated lawyers who are feminists. They're working class Democrats that you have more of a shot at getting. And the core of that appeal is social conservatism, right to life, Second Amendment, and obviously national security," Donatelli said.
"They already sense that [Obama] may be too liberal," the adviser added. "They tend to also agree with McCain on the war and on social issues and we'll have to satisfy them that McCain agrees with them on the economy."
"The bulk of the Democrats you would try to appeal to are not Harvard-educated lawyers who are feminists. They're working class Democrats that you have more of a shot at getting. And the core of that appeal is social conservatism, right to life, Second Amendment, and obviously national security," Donatelli said.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/030 8/9229_Page2.html
Certain groups of Democrats are cross-pressured? Yeah, I'm aware of that, but Barack Obama will never out-Republican a Republican on those issues. Obama's problem with blue-collar voters is not that he is too liberal on social issues, it is that he is too conservative on economic issues.
Granted many of blue-collar voters are Democrats, so my "Republican base" crack was simplistic, but the point is that both Obama and McCain have chosen to fight on right-wing ground, and they are both moving to the right, not to the center.
He may have to tread into the conservative territory in order to win the GE
Twenty-four percent (24%) of the nation's voters are both fiscally and socially conservative. Twenty percent (20%) are both fiscally and socially moderate. Fifteen percent (15%) of all voters are fiscally moderate and socially liberal. Two groups of voters each include 10% of the voting population--those who are fiscally conservative and socially moderate along with those who are fiscally moderate and socially conservative.* Nine percent (9%) are fiscally and socially liberal.*
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_conte nt/politics/election_20082/2008_presiden tial_election/daily_presidential_trackin g_poll
If you want to hang out with people who fall in line at the drop of a hat and are proud to parrot the li(n)es of their leadership, the GOP will be glad to welcome you.
Otherwise, get used to watching Barack Obama get shredded. He's not God, you know. He's not even good.
He's not God, you know.
Really? Really? Darn, I guess we'll have to give the nomination to Hillary then. That was the only reason why I was voting for him.
He's not even good.
But tell us how you really feel.
Have a great 4th of July!
Super Cameron Which Democrats do you represent?
to avoid the conclusion that though they claim otherwise, many Clinton supporters really want Obama to lose.
where did you pull that "conclusion" out of off? Your behind?
most democrats have bitched and moaned over candidates for decades. It is what proudly separates us from the republicans.
The vocal minority are an annoying bunch of people. You're best option, since they represent no one but themselves, is to just ignore them.
Believe me, no one else cares what they think, since there are so few, that's why they always make a fuss about nothing.
Nope just fed up...
