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Your only policy position that (2.00 / 6)

I absolutely cannot handle or justify is your position on gay rights. I don't understand (or particularly respect) people who are opposed to gay rights.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:07:45 PM EST

seriously. (2.00 / 6)

i cannot believe that in the year 2008, this is a concern for people.  whom one chooses in their love lives is none of my business.  whether it be gay or otherwise.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:11:19 PM EST
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Homophobes are just (2.00 / 5)

uncomfortable with their own sexuality. They're cowards, in every sense of the word.

Democrat who believes only in "traditional family values" = homophobic GOP concern troll.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:13:52 PM EST
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traditional family values??? (2.00 / 5)

values - yes!  

traditional values - what the hell does that even mean?  that the daddy goes to work in his ford and the mommy tends to the kitchen and kids?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:18:04 PM EST
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"Traditional GOP family values" (2.00 / 5)


  • Marriage between one man and one woman.
  • Man works to provide for his family.
  • Woman is barefoot and pregnant at least 90% of the time.
  • Woman bakes several pies a week (no cooking with shoes on, of course).
  • Man doesn't beat his wife on Sundays (Mon-Sat beatings are okay).
  • Man eyes his male boss lustfully but does nothing about it.
  • Man joins in the effort to oppress homosexuals because it makes him feel better about himself for being too afraid to pursue what he really desires.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:24:39 PM EST
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Re: "Traditional GOP family values" (none / 0)

Don't forget the other "traditional" family values:
 - abuse
 - alcoholism and
 - incest
by Lacy Davenport on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 01:31:51 PM EST
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That last one is just (none / 0)

a traditional Southern value. I should know, I've lived down here all my life.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 01:53:55 PM EST
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Re: traditional family values??? (2.00 / 2)

Sounds like the same type of Democrats who think that "women should know thier place".

Oh wait, those Democrats don't exist.


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:39:26 PM EST
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Re: traditional family values??? (2.00 / 2)

Again, I have to disagree.
Unfortunate as it is....there are most certainly Democrats who think that 'women should know their place'.
Cretins nonetheless.
They just happen to be Democratic cretins.
by Kysen on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 11:04:13 PM EST
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Re: Homophobes are just (2.00 / 4)

I actually disagree with you here, sricki.
I believe that one can be a Democrat and not hold all the beliefs of the Platform.

I know o'plenty Democrats who are racists, homophobes and/or Bible Thumpers to the nth degree. Just as I know Republicans who are Pro-Choice, Pro-Gun Control and anti-Bible Thumping.

There are folks from all walks in both Parties.

Now, that having been said.....I believe that said racists, homophobes and other such cretins are, well, cretins....they just might happen to be Democratic cretins.


by Kysen on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:26:49 PM EST
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You're right, yellowdem may vote (2.00 / 5)

Democratic. But gay rights is a pretty bad issue to have a GOP mindset on... Really nauseating.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:29:57 PM EST
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Re: You're right, yellowdem may vote (2.00 / 3)

yep - it is kinda gross.

even our PM (who is conservative) wouldn't dare reopen this issue.  


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:36:31 PM EST
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Re: You're right, yellowdem may vote (1.00 / 2)

This is not the Gay Rights party.  People can have differing opinions without being homophobes, and your labelling them as such is very counterproductive.  But then, I've come to expect that from you.

I knew a man who explained his position on gay marriage thus:  Marriage is a hetero cultural institution.  Heteros have a right to preserve their culture just as gays, jews, blacks, women, communists, weedheads and sports-buffs do.

If gays want to have their own marriage this is fine, but they should give it a different name.  (Which is fine with me, as long as legally they are extended the same rights as heteros.)

Why can't gays, he posited, invent their own institution and have it adopted by the state?  Why must they insist on being allowed to infringe on a hetero cultural institution?

He had a point.  Heterosexuals invented a cultural institution which was adopted by the state.

Gays should do the same.

p.s.  Before you respond, consider that we have MANY exclusive institutions and legal rights extended to groups for various reasons, including race (indian casinos) sex (womens toilets, no men allowed) profession (unions, etc) and the like.


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 07:00:04 AM EST
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Re: You're right, yellowdem may vote (1.00 / 2)

"But then, I've come to expect that from you."

That comment was for sricki, not canadian gal.


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 07:01:23 AM EST
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its kind of a mind-f%$k isn't it? (2.00 / 2)

partisanship i mean.  in canada, its less so since MP's have to vote along party lines.  but there are so many more shades of grey in your system.

hawkish-liberals
conservative-doves

it really blows my mind sometimes.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:33:32 PM EST
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Re: Homophobes are just (none / 0)

I know, and didn't we go over that issue with yellow in another one of his diaries, and yet he still wants to bring it up.


by venician on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 01:56:28 PM EST
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He won't respond to us, though. (none / 0)

How many times have I asked him who is hurt by gay marriage? Never gotten an answer.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 02:01:18 PM EST
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Re: Your only policy position that (none / 0)

It's not rational.  Don't try to understand it.  It will make your head spin.

My family changed because of me.  Logic wasn't involved.  Just personal experience.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 12:21:30 PM EST
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