I have made my prediction , it would be Bayh.

I don't care what Moveon thinks.

I happen to agree with Al From.

...Eli Parser of Moveon goes out of his way to not make noise about the potential of Obama choosing the DLC's Bayh, but then From goes in for the noise...

Bayh's biggest selling point is that he was a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton so his selection could be seen as reaching out to her and her people.

This Obama candidacy is shaping up to be one huge Shit Show.

Why is anyone even listening to From anymore.  If From supports Bayh, then I would almost instinctively want to be against him.

Evan Bayh, what an awful pick.  And what of the BO must pick some who is in line with his theme of change.  Bayh is Mr Washington insider.

If BO picks Byhh it is in line with change.  That is BO ablity to keep changing his mind and actions and views to what is political expedient.

david

Evan Bayh is the safe, bland choice.  

I've made my thoughts on the VP clear: it's about getting the top of the ticket elected, and that's it.  I think progressives should lobby the candidate for policy reasons, but the VP choice?  It's a waste of time: it's just packaging.

It would be difficult to nominate Bayh as the VP being that if he does become VP, then his Indian senate seat become open, only to be filled by a Republican governor (Mitch Daniels.). Clearly, more to be lost than gained. Obama/Clark 08

Wes Clark
Ed Rendell
Hillary Clinton

Those are the three names that he should be seriously considering.

I keep putting a thought with  two words into Obama's universe...

BoB Wexler
BoB Wexler

Wes
Hillary
Joe Biden

Bayh is an attack poodle, we need someone with teeth.

"The antiwar people cannot define the Democratic Party," said Al From, a founder of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, of which Mr. Bayh was chairman for four years. "I think Evan's real strength is you get someone on the ticket who has a record of being strong on national security, and that is a very important quality to have."

This mentality totally infuriates me. What Mr. From was REALLY saying was "I think Evan's real strength is you get someone on the ticket who has a record of being WRONG on national security."

be good,
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he can help in IN and OH (maybe MI if the media markets cross.)  he can take over as president if ever needed.  he has gubernatorial and senatorial experience.  he can't be seen as another celebrity candidate (even karl rove couldn't make people think that).  

he is a strong hillary supporter, but what's best is that because of his lack of charisma, it's arguable that if he doesn't grow in office, come 2016 hillary could still beat a veep bayh for the nomination.  she drinks his milkshake, but has a much bigger straw.  with a probable net roots edwards type also running (warner, schwitezer, someone we haven't heard of yet) she could knock him out, beat the netroots candidate and get the nom 8 years from now.  though if that's what obama wants, biden would accomplish that better as he probably wouldn't run for prez in '16.

Wouldn't be thrilled, or even pleased.  In the end, it's Obama's choice to make.

I think Bayh's odds are one on seventy trillion against.

Why do DLC drones like From insist on confusing "strong on natinal security" with supporting  invasions and out-of-control military spending?  

It's like being "tough on crime" instead of smart about crime.  It's incredibily expensive scenery chewing that has cost countless lives and injuries and has damaged our ability to respond to other truly pressing needs.

The Iraq invasions as a response to 9/11 and the threat posed by terrorists is a textbook example of the wrong action in the wrong place at tremendous cost which at the time appealed to many Americans as :they did it to us; now we are really gonna get them."  Except it wasn't them and the whole thing was based on bullshit.

This is strong on national security?  Really?

I doubt that it will be Kaine or Sebellius who have no national security experience.

Why does no one point out that picking Bayh will in all probability cost the Democrats a Senate seat. Gov. Daniels is favored to win re-election and unless there is a major upset will appoint a hardline conservative to replace Bayh.

Foreign policy matters most to the base voters Obama has locked up.  I realize that people who have foreign policy as their #1 issue do not appreciate Bayh (except for idiots like From).  

However, this election is not going to be won or lost on foreign policy.  It will be lost on the stupid economy.  Obama needs help with his weak economic message and Jobs jobs jobs to seal the deal with the swing voters.  Obama is doing better attacking McSameonmics, but Obama really needs to do better with his own positive jobs message.  

Bayh was 'the working man's' governor.  His strength is the economy and he would give Obama a needed boost.
Obama needs to get off of foreign policy and mention the word jobs 100 times every day until Nov 4.

Did a little Wiki on my new favorite political villain Nancy Jacobson,  Mark Penn's wife.

Well we all know how she is making millions profiting of the Convention in August.

Short and sweet, she set up fake "Celebrity" tours for rich Democrats attending the convention.

Problem is, the celebrities arent coming and the 750,000 gross that comes in, not a single red cent goes to the DNC, while she piggybacks on a convention we all donated to run.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/10 /mark-penns-wife-feeding-a_n_112058.html

So while researching this scam artist I found this interesting bit of info on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Jacob son

Additionally, since 1995 she has been the chief financial architect for Sen. Evan Bayh, a moderate Democrat from Indiana.

Hillarious reading her wiki, wow, I only thought republicans entered public service with the express intention to get RICH.

Man I hate Mark Penn and his wife that was at least smart enough not to share his last name.

Imagine her trying to collect that money from those rich folks "Hi, Im Nancy Penn, yea that guy,  now give me my money"

Democrats here older than me, is our party riddled with these types, and Im just too naive to know?

I think Bayh is an unlikely choice for Obama.  The VP choice can solidify the base and amplify the message, but Bayh will give him headaches on both counts.  If he wants a safe choice, I think he will choose someone like Sen. Reed (RI).  If he wants to amplify his anti-Washington message, it would be Kaine or Sebelius.

My bet is on Wesley Clark.

Obama/Clark '08!?!?

The whining about Evan Bayh is wildly disproportionate to the reality. I can imagine already all the wrist-slitting that will happen should Obama actually announce Bayh as his ticket-mate. Good grief.

Anyway, the case for Evan Bayh is this:

1. Former two-term Governor -- Evan Bayh, unlike Barack Obama, has actually run a governmental bureaucracy. Bayh, by most accounts, was a terrific Governor. His first act as Governor of Indiana was to restore collective bargaining rights for state employees. His major landmark achievement was to institute a program called 21st Century Scholars -- that provided the financing for tens of thousands of Hoosier students from impoverished backgrounds to go to college. Bayh also cut taxes, balanced his state's budget, and ran a surplus for several years. He's got a Gubernatorial record that's hard to complain about.
   
2. National Security Credibility -- Bayh's Senate Record is more modest than his gubernatorial record, but he can claim that he has focused on defense and foreign affairs issues, and so he has what passes for national security credentialing among DC elites.
   
3. Trade Credibility -- he has a strong record on trade issues, and is frankly a stronger messenger on that than Obama.
   
4. Culture -- Bayh is the embodiment of the newest generation of Midwestern, heartland politicians. Unlike the prairie populist Tom Harkin types, Bayh learned expertly how to present himself as culturally non-threatening, and reassuring. Evan Bayh looks and acts like the guy Middle America wants to marry its virginal daughter. With Evan Bayh on his flank, Obama will seem much less 'exotic' than he may currently be percerived in some areas. After all, if that nice boy Evan Bayh hangs around with him, he can't be all bad.

Obama can look center, but if he goes DLC, we are in trouble. We are back into light Republicanism and not far from "politics as usual." Isn't this exactly what Obama promised to steer away from?

If you look at who the DLC and much of the MSM defines as having national security credentials they all supported the biggest clusterF*** in recent foreign policy. Why does screwing up royally and showing utter political cowardice under GOP fire earn you leadership stripes from Al From?  

You never hear about the national security credentials of a Harkin, Chaffee or Byrd even though they had the foresight to see what a total diaster this would turn out to be.

Better not choose Bayh!!!!!

That would go over well at all.

Wesley Clark should be the pick.  He can respect McCains service-(it does not even begin to meet his own) and he can also say McCain is not ready to be a leader!
And he sticks to his position!
I respect Clark for not backing down.
Hope Obama's VP selection group can see the wisdom.  He needs a proven national security choice.  Wesley Clark is the only choice when it comes down to that!

I think this is a long-shot. I think that Bayh will not be the VP--and it will be his pro-Iraq war stance which is the reason. There are many generals and politicians who have the military or security creds who will be picked before Bayh. I think it's going to be either someome from Virginia or someone from Kansas.

Really, what sets this guy apart from say,   Govenor Martin O'Malley.

Or any other VP pick.

I keep hearing his name on TV, on the net but not a single detail to go with him.

What does he bring to the ticket?
What does he bring to the national stage?

Any examples of him attacking or standing up to Republicans?

I know everyone likes to flame and snark on here, but if we are going to vet every single Dem who opens their mouth, why have I not seen bupkiss on this guy.

When we have discussed Clark, Kaine and everyone else, details and happy/mad remarks float around.

With this mystery man Bayh, all I hear are annoying crickets.

Does anyone support this guy on this board, if so speak up!

I'm not sure how Obama can hit Clinton on judgement issues (due to her Iraq war vote)in the primaries and then turn around and select a guy who not only vvoted for the war, but was a strong supporter of it for quite a while.
Nonetheless, his fiscal policies as governor were quite impressive and had many good results. Most people in Indiana love him.
Here's an excerpt from Chris Cizilla's post on the WaPo blog, "The Case Against Evan Bayh"

To the extent Bayh has organizing political principles, they come out of the Democratic Leadership Council, a group he chaired earlier this decade. The DLC is reviled by the emergent liberal left of the Democratic party particularly the blogosphere; in 2004, Markos Moulitsas, perhaps the most powerful member of the so-called "netroots" penned a post entitled "Time for the DLC to Die."

Obama, whose primary victory over Hillary Rodham Clinton was credited, at least in part, to his strong support from the party's liberal wing, has had rocky relations of late with this crucial bloc -- largely due to his decision to support a domestic surveillance bill that included immunity for telecommunications companies who handed over caller information to the government.

Picking Bayh has the potential to inflame this group even more -- not just because of his DLC ties but also because he was a leading proponent of the war in Iraq and voted in favor of the 2002 use of force resolution.

In an interview with Post editors and reporters in February 2006 -- as he was ramping up his exploration of a presidential bid -- Bayh refused, as some of his fellow Senators already had, to renounce his support for the war.

The Fix, WaPo